tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19451417.post4629236429589463696..comments2023-07-02T21:12:43.266+05:30Comments on The Argumentative Indian: TELANGANA 23: Andhra politicians - Politics part-time, Businesses full-time!Justhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15938509910551379491noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19451417.post-70151041710939374292014-02-17T22:51:38.027+05:302014-02-17T22:51:38.027+05:30ofcourse, the lands belong to the owners. Period.
...ofcourse, the lands belong to the owners. Period.<br /><br />Regarding colleges, students who study inter in non T region are alreay non-local to T, they have to be in top 15% of open quota to get into T region college (not sure about exact %s, or donations make any difference)<br /><br />Regarding fears, I meant there need not be new fears..Vamsihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02240709610062236855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19451417.post-89194903908839000732014-02-17T13:15:45.185+05:302014-02-17T13:15:45.185+05:30@Vamsi , i can live in Hyd . I am not sure whether...@Vamsi , i can live in Hyd . I am not sure whether living in hyd will make my child a local to get a seat in Engineering colleges immediately. I think he should hold a intermediate degree in that state to get a seat in Enigeering college in that state ,else he will be treated as non-local. Leave about people who can stay in Hyd. But still , what about all the other intermediate college kids from Andhra side who are working hard to get in to good college . Wont they become non-locals once the new college is formed . <br /><br />And ur statement "Fears are baseless" .. Haha , a common man lives in fear dude . Fear of losing the job , fear of running a family , fear of raising prices .. Fear is what drives a common man . Either u should be a reckless man or a wealthy man not to have fear . As i said fear of not knowing what will happen if we loose hyderabad will not allow a normal Andhra common guy to support Telangana (leaving about the Topic whether Telangana is really needed )<br /><br />I dont understand what a business man from Andhra region will lose in Hyd if Telangana is formed . The lands are on his name , even if the new state is formed , the lands are still going to be on his name . Assume that a north Indian as purchased a land in Hyd , it is still going to be with him right after the new state is formed ?? .If not then there is lot to worry for a common man from Andhra region who has houses or a land in Hyderabad or telangana region which he has purchased with his life long savings . krishnachaitanyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03202889430547498103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19451417.post-74054066924988825192014-02-17T01:28:27.304+05:302014-02-17T01:28:27.304+05:30@krishnachaitanya,
what(or who) is stopping you f...@krishnachaitanya,<br /><br />what(or who) is stopping you from living in hyd? You can stay anywhere , can't you? There may be a little insecurity at the time of the division, but fears are baseless!!Vamsihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02240709610062236855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19451417.post-6779386540520550672014-02-15T12:13:48.842+05:302014-02-15T12:13:48.842+05:30"I understand from andhra plutocrats perspect..."I understand from andhra plutocrats perspective, but *not* from a normal andhra person's perspective. Can you throw some light here? why would he stop Telangana? "<br /><br />I would answer your query why a common man from Andhra will stop Telangana <br /><br />1. From the last 40 years , people born in Andhra side never know that there was a agitation for state merger or demerger . They were brought up with the mind set that AP is there state and now all of sudden , an agitation starts saying the state should divided . <br />Accepting that is not that easy .<br /><br />2 . A normal Andhra person is not able to understand what harm he did to a Telangana guy . I being from a small village called Chillakur in Nellore District , born as Higher Caste Reddy but unfortunately born in a poor family did not see any Super benefit for being a Andhra Guy . I studied in a small school , studied hard for more than 15 hrs a day to get a free seat in a Engineering college . Even in getting a Job ,my upbringing did not give me much Communication skills which resulted for 1 year struggle for Getting a JOb . No one gave a Job in Hyderabad or any other place saying that i am from Andhra Region . I had friends from Telangana side in Intermediate ,Engineering and even in Job . There were far better off than me moneywise, intelligence .. So i am really not able to understand what a normal Andhra Guy did to a Telangana guy . <br /><br />3. Our political leaders for what ever person be it there political or monetary developed only Hyderabad . Hyderabad holds most of the AP's revenue , development , education , jobs etc ..Communication skills are very important to get a Job ..Apart from hyderabad , can u say any other place in AP where my son tomorrow can get that . Wont he become a non local to Telangana state then . <br /><br />4. Assuming none of the above matters , and the state is divided . Telangana which will hold power over hyd wont be having any problem in running the state .. Can the newly formed Andhra give promotions to all the Govt employees with the tight budget it will hold . (Assuming Funds from center will be used to develop infrastructure in new city) . Wont the newly formed State Govt Collect extra taxes in order to develop new City or to run the new Govt . Wont it fall on the common man at the end of the day . <br /><br />I would as a common will support Telangana after the Govt at Center or state develop a new Capital , solve the fears of people . Until then Andhra side people will be agitated and worried only . krishnachaitanyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03202889430547498103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19451417.post-29027142262634023722011-08-05T02:56:59.561+05:302011-08-05T02:56:59.561+05:30During the age of Nizam, Bathukamma used to be ena...During the age of Nizam, Bathukamma used to be enacted by the Shudras — mostly OBCs. Dalits were not allowed to participate as they were seen as pollutants even by the OBCs of lower order.<br /><br />Why are Bonalu and Sammakka Saralamma not performed in USA. Only because they are SC and ST festivals.acute bronchitishttp://bronchitissymptomsinadults.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19451417.post-89398852370771169642011-08-04T06:40:22.897+05:302011-08-04T06:40:22.897+05:30not everyone is able to answer these two questions...not everyone is able to answer these two questions, engaging self-awareness. Especially without any system.buy homeworkhttp://aplusa.org.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19451417.post-44154286220127521432011-07-07T20:21:51.110+05:302011-07-07T20:21:51.110+05:30Nice one!
Well, need to accept that the plight of...Nice one!<br /><br />Well, need to accept that the plight of Telangana is majorly due to the politicians ...ofcourse a bunch of them ... because they cheated everytime people believed them ... and some don't mind playing the second fiddle to the main destructors... all they want is a post what if they don't enjoy the 'real' power ... people are still believeing them itself shows the need for Telangana state ..this time, cheating can't be an option for them !<br /><br />Telangana is too complex an issue to be understood in simple terms like "backwardness", "inefficient politicians" etc ... in simple terms, it's a a case of imperialism !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19451417.post-67709333579198845272011-07-05T03:09:19.659+05:302011-07-05T03:09:19.659+05:30I understand from andhra plutocrats perspective, b...I understand from andhra plutocrats perspective, but *not* from a normal andhra person's perspective. Can you throw some light here? why would he stop Telangana?Vamsihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02240709610062236855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19451417.post-12351824045526907802011-07-05T03:07:14.658+05:302011-07-05T03:07:14.658+05:30//T politicians never tasted 'real' power....//T politicians never tasted 'real' power. //<br /><br />Is this all about power and consequences of that power?<br /><br />//state's demerger would stop just like that, even after central government's decision....why?//<br /><br />I understand from andhra plutocrats perspective, but from a normal andhra person. Can you throw some light here?Vamsihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02240709610062236855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19451417.post-47536213720144811262011-06-29T10:15:34.781+05:302011-06-29T10:15:34.781+05:30@ Sujai, Madhav, Dileep, Sid.
Thanks guys@ Sujai, Madhav, Dileep, Sid.<br /><br />Thanks guysJusthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15938509910551379491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19451417.post-21115234547618256592011-06-29T10:14:17.852+05:302011-06-29T10:14:17.852+05:30@farooq,
The hard-earned money part may be from h...@farooq,<br /><br />The hard-earned money part may be from his initial career as a pure businessman in projects mainly in North India, before he entered politics. He just has had IT raids after a significant decrease in the taxes he paid in last 2 years.Justhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15938509910551379491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19451417.post-88895003613749049182011-06-29T10:11:41.231+05:302011-06-29T10:11:41.231+05:30@Vamsi,
/I can argue that Telangana politicians a...@Vamsi,<br /><br />/I can argue that Telangana politicians are supporting separate state for their own political growth as they can't win if they oppose./<br /><br />I don't dispute that. I am not one of those chauvinists who believe people/politicians of one region are inherently good or bad compared to others. But you can not compare all too public 'political growth' ambition of a T politician to a blatant loot of a Andhra businessman politician!<br /><br />/Most of the Andhra people are also not in favor of separate Telangana though they do not have much to lose/gain with/with out Telangana../<br />Andhra people also do not like corruption, do not like getting raw deals in railway budgets year after year. Is something happening on that front? But Bingo, state's demerger would stop just like that, even after central government's decision, even after an announcement in parliament, even after a strong public wave in elections and in general. Why?Justhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15938509910551379491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19451417.post-64604138353534073902011-06-29T10:03:33.074+05:302011-06-29T10:03:33.074+05:30@Vamsi,
/Almost every politician works on their pe...@Vamsi,<br />/Almost every politician works on their personal agenda rather than pubic agenda../<br /><br />Precisely my point! This post is an answer to the oft-repeated argument that Andhra politicians are somehow 'efficient' and their T counterparts are not. <br /><br />/If Telangana's MPs have powerful businesses I am 100% sure that they would have also worked against demerger irrespective of what Telangana (or Andhra) public need../<br />Correct (In fact there are already a few wannabe plutocrats who are doing that).<br /><br />Having said that, you should now ask why despite our corrupt political scenario, there are no T politicians who wield that kind of power after 60 years of merger. the answer is simple, T politicians never tasted 'real' power. You see lackeys from T of these plutocrats as home ministers and deputy CMs. Ironically, that is the same reason why Telangana's woes came to this pass - that it never really had its say in the matters.Justhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15938509910551379491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19451417.post-45020157400166808102011-06-29T09:54:15.581+05:302011-06-29T09:54:15.581+05:30@ Madhav
/ What makes you think that these politic...@ Madhav<br />/ What makes you think that these politicians will not gel well with newly formed Telangana state politicians and continue their loot?/<br /><br />You need more than 'geling well' to continue vice-like grip on resources of a state.You need real power and that is why they are resisting the demerger. If the new state is formed, there would be rush among T politicians to 'match up' with these plutocrats. They are already getting ambitious! <br /><br />The real challenge for Telanganas in that scenario would be to continue to force these T politicians, as they do now, according to public aspirations.Justhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15938509910551379491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19451417.post-18837716066556161062011-06-28T15:48:14.912+05:302011-06-28T15:48:14.912+05:30Nice article Amar.
Almost every politician works ...Nice article Amar.<br /><br />Almost every politician works on their personal agenda rather than pubic agenda.<br /><br />I can argue that Telangana politicians are supporting separate state for their own political growth as they can't win if they oppose.<br /><br />I came across this definition from RGV about public opinion; it is not exactly public opinion, but what <br />public thinks about what public opinion is. funny, but I agree with him :)<br /><br />If Telangana's MPs have powerful businesses I am 100% sure that they would have also worked against demerger irrespective of what Telangana (or Andhra) public need.<br /><br />Most of the Andhra people are also not in favor of separate Telangana though they do not have much to lose/gain with/with out Telangana..<br /><br />@Farooq, is Nama's money hard earned just because he belongs to Telangana ;)Vamsihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02240709610062236855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19451417.post-59383272590162362802011-06-28T09:49:55.427+05:302011-06-28T09:49:55.427+05:30Brilliant and illuminating analysis ! Your penchan...Brilliant and illuminating analysis ! Your penchant for investigation and research is fabulous !<br /><br />However, I have one question - What makes you think that these politicians will not gel well with newly formed Telangana state politicians and continue their loot?Madhavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10080914371144699047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19451417.post-43804746129303281932011-06-27T21:32:58.006+05:302011-06-27T21:32:58.006+05:30Khammam is a part of Telangana and Nama Nageshwara...Khammam is a part of Telangana and Nama Nageshwara Rao has hard Earned money unlike andhra politicians.FarooqPSKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15309621278776006742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19451417.post-75615375796519528612011-06-27T21:18:55.195+05:302011-06-27T21:18:55.195+05:30Amar,thanks for pulling this together. This should...Amar,thanks for pulling this together. This should be an eye-opener for many- both Andhrites and Telanganites alike, who still do not see any problem in "unified Andhra Pradesh". <br />We should share this in as many forums as possible.<br />Let us see if we can translate this to Telugu too and share it.Sidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01286210806382452243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19451417.post-22540121662038228162011-06-26T16:44:18.734+05:302011-06-26T16:44:18.734+05:30Amazing how you pick a topic and expand to give it...Amazing how you pick a topic and expand to give it a shape you give. In Management terms being efficient is 'doing things right' and bing effective is 'doing right things right'. In this context Andhra politicians are definitely efficient, but not effective. Telangana leaders on the other hand are in-effective, and fortunately they are inefficient as well! Your articles really smack of an experienced journo, Amar.Madhav Mudumbainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19451417.post-25818148844824585572011-06-25T12:08:40.334+05:302011-06-25T12:08:40.334+05:30Bang on target. We need to thoroughly expose this ...Bang on target. We need to thoroughly expose this business of 'Samaikyandhra Pradesh"Konatham Dileephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00270754912678924955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19451417.post-47480234576779264752011-06-25T11:14:40.786+05:302011-06-25T11:14:40.786+05:30Dude!! Amazing analysis and absolutely "an ey...Dude!! Amazing analysis and absolutely "an eye opener" insight into these ever greedy plutocrats. May be it would do more good to the cause if the list included MPs and MLAs from every region of today's Andhra Pradesh. I have been a silent appreciator of your work thru' out. Keep up the good work partner. Don't stop your voice against these atrocities.Madhavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13727060367710600323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19451417.post-7293720296357968042011-06-25T11:00:51.598+05:302011-06-25T11:00:51.598+05:30Great Article. Nice one. Kudos!Great Article. Nice one. Kudos!Sujaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16539694685428659940noreply@blogger.com